Google exec sees Android overtaking BlackBerry, iPhone

updated 04:15 pm EDT, Tue April 27, 2010

Google's Rubin sees Android lead as inevitable


Android will inevitably get larger than the BlackBerry or iPhone, Google's engineering VP Andy Rubin argued today in a bold statement. He saw it as "just a matter of time" since the open nature of Android meant it could be used by multiple phone makers and multiple devices where the in-house Apple and RIM platforms are limited by their nature. The senior staffer wouldn't commit to a timeframe for when he thought this would happen.

"I don't know when its might be, but I'm confident it will happen," Rubin told the NYT. "Open usually wins."

So far, Google has had limited success. Android has been making rapid advances in market share in key areas but is still considerably smaller than either the BlackBerry or iPhone platforms, even in its home territory of the US. HTC is the only manufacturer of the sort to consistently improve sales where Motorola and others have struggled.

Also, while not as open as Android, Windows Mobile has bled away most of its share partly because Microsoft's approach to a many-manufacturer strategy failed to persuade buyers. It has acknowledged that policies around requirements and licensing to a lowest common denominator effect, where many phones reflected poorly on Windows Mobile by being too slow or feature-limited. Windows Phone 7 is a partial reversal of that strategy and sets both a bar for hardware and limits on what hardware and software firms can produce.

Rubin was also puzzled by Apple's strategy of filtering apps and dictating APIs, and went so far as to liken closed-off systems like that and RIM's to a totalitarian government. "When they can’t have something, people do care. Look at the way politics work. I just don’t want to live in North Korea," he argued.

Jobs' repeated instances of attacking Android as a haven for porn created a disconnect of their own and led Rubin to believe that Apple's culture was fundamentally disconnected from Google's. He couldn't provide "a rationale for that" and teased that if Google were to have a high-profile phone leak he would actually encourage it as it would put more details out in the open.

"With openness comes less secrets," he stated.




By Electronista Staff

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  1. phillymjs

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    +7

    This just in...

    ...employee of company thinks that company's product is better than the competition's.... film at 11.


  1. Jonathan-Tanya

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    Joined: Oct 2004

    +6

    agreed

    RIM has a no-contract phone out, Android not only has that, but because of its open nature .i.e. you can copy it without paying a license, its going to go on some of the very cheapest phones out there.

    Why that is important, is right now, Smartphones and the premium market are synonymous...in this marketplace Apple can thrive.

    But everyone knows smartphones are going downmarket...feature phones are being replaces...when all phones are smartphones, even the prepay $30 phone you get at Dollar General or 7-eleven....those are markets Apple won't enter (most likely, maybe they will, but their history suggests they won't).

    It's all about definitions...Apple will continue to own the same high end market they own now. But when we stop this artificial divide, not counting feature phones because they aren't 'smart'...and we look at all phones, we see Apple hasn't moved down market at all.

    So in a world where all phones are smartphones, apple won't be the biggest player...it is quite possibly going to be Android...they are the inside favorite.

    Apple will still be PRINTING MONEY don't get me wrong, but Android will have the larger 'share' of the market, on a per seat basis


  1. WiseWeasel

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    +2

    Re: agreed:

    What's preventing smartphones from gaining more widespread marketshare is the cost of the data plans charged by carriers, not the handsets. The cost of the phone plan dwarfs even the retail unlocked price of premium handsets. The only things that could significantly expand the market for smartphones are if wireless carriers get a lot more competitive on the cost of their plans, or if you expand the definition of a smartphone to a device that doesn't need to have a data plan, such as an iPod Touch that can make phone calls (voice-only on cell networks, internet access available only via WiFi).

    Until this changes, the market is limited to a premium customer base, and the cost advantages of commodity hardware, with consumers benefiting from pressure on margins for hardware vendors, is nullified by the fact that not only is the cost of the handsets typically hidden from the customer by the carrier, but with the over 50% profit margin Apple is making on the devices, there is a lot of room to be more competitive on pricing and still make mountains of cash, and they've apparently not yet felt the pressure to do so. To these premium customers willing to pay for expensive smartphone plans, Apple's brand strength and positive media coverage are formidable foes for handset vendors competing in the consumer smartphone space. Consumers don't make purchasing decisions the same way corporate IT departments make decisions, which is why I'd hesitate to draw too many parallels to the domination of the PC industry by Microsoft when talking about the market that Apple's iPhone plays in.


  1. Peter Bonte

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    +1

    in time

    Every handset maker or operator will make its own appstore and special version of the OS, the open nature of Android also has many negatives. 100 versions together maybe.


  1. testudo

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    -2

    Re: in time

    So your complaint is that there MAY be too many. Or you complain that people aren't rolling their own. Or they're using their own.

    And does it matter if there's 100 different versions of the OS? What's more important is whether the different versions can run the same software. For if you didn't notice, there's at least 3 versions of the iPhone OS (iPhone, iPod, iPad), and each has their own internal versions (based on the differences in the hardware within a line).

    And yet no one seems to complain about that OS and the AppStore and all the confusion about what will or won't run or any of that.


  1. peter02l

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    Microsoft thanks you, Google!

    This is great for Microsoft as they will be collecting royalties on every Android based phone sold.

    How ironic that Google's attempt to topple Windows Mobile has turned out to be a wonderful source of revenue for Microsoft, without Microsoft having to spend any additional money on R&D.


  1. peter02l

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    Microsoft thanks you, Google!

    Please see Microsoft's licensing deal with HTC, and the related patent infringement claim.


  1. peter02l

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    Ha!

    "When they can’t have something, people do care. Look at the way politics work. I just don’t want to live in North Korea," - Rubin

    Yes, how about decent healthcare and education?


  1. ggirton

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    +1

    In North Korea

    You can't have flash on your iPhone in North Korea.
    In fact -- you can't even have a phone!
    Bummer.


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